Re: Brian Hunt

Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:15 am

a god damn bunch of sandy vaginas in this thread...
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Re: Brian Hunt

Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:37 am

Azimuth wrote:It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

+1

And nicely put.
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Re: Brian Hunt

Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:30 am

Azimuth wrote:It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.


That is not quite true. It could be argued that I was denied the ability to enjoy The Session as I do most every week. I am not going to stop listening because of one dud show of course but I am sure Justin and the crew want to know when a guest is not well received and loses a large portion of their listeners, even if just for the week. It is a testament to how great the show is week in and week out that having one unlistenable show gets such attention. Most other podcasts I listen to would LOVE to have that kind of record.
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Re: Brian Hunt

Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:40 am

I have no problem with him stating a view that I don't agree with. Often, that sort of thing can spark some healthy discussion(see Mufasa's anti-extract stance). I did have a problem with the way that he acted. He sounded condescending and annoying, which doesn't fit at all with the way the BN does things. I like that the shows are informative without the know-it-all vibe. God knows JZ, Doc, Tasty et al have grounds to be arrogant but they aren't.
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Re: Brian Hunt

Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:41 am

The guy writing the Barclay Perkins blog has some interesting things to say about beer style. It might be interesting to have him on the show. His rationale makes far more sense to me than Brian's. Here are the posts I speak of:

http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/sear ... r%20styles
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Re: Brian Hunt

Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:51 pm

Brian never said you should only brew based on your region, but he was saying there aren't enough who do. Sure he has a style all his own when he talks, but so do each and every one of you. At least Brian had the balls to come on and flat out say that styles are shit and to brew what you like. What brewer does that?

With regards to the Saison DuPont, i think we all have one beer that defines a style for us. For Brian its duPont - and it's his favorite, last-beer-on-earth beer. Of course he is going to be passionate about it. Personally, I haven't found a commercial bourbon-oaked beer that I like. They are all either too over-the-top or flacid in flavor. And I'd rather them not be made if they can't be made properly. Is that too much of a bold statement?

so some of his facts are wrong. Does that diminish what he was trying to do? Some of you think global warming is man-made, doesn't mean you are shitty people. Well ...
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Re: Brian Hunt

Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:59 pm

You said flaccid.
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Re: Brian Hunt

Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:55 pm

JP, I think you are blinded by love :wink: . I think Brian had some good points about style and brewing philosophy, but almost all his arguments are overly simplistic, judgmental in nature, and not mindful of the fact that people have to start somewhere. We aren't automatically perfect when we start something new.

Brian's not the only guy who's favorite beer on the planet is Saison Dupont (actually I don't think he said that but I'm sure it's up there for him). If I had to say one beer that I love more than any other, I'd pick Saison Dupont in a heartbeat. But if I were o never try to brew anything in the saison family because it couldn't be that good, I would have never tried to brew a saison, and I never would have made the steps I've made as a brewer to produce a good one. Likewise, if I were to be offended by every bad attempt at a saison I've tried, I wouldn't be recognizing that some of the brewers just don't know enough about the style, or they just don't have the technical brewing skill yet. They might someday though. Actually instead of Brian saying he doesn't feel worthy of brewing a beer he can call a saison, I wish he would just do as much research as he can on what makes a good one, and then go for it. I'd certainly try it with an open mind.

This is at the heart of saison brewing: Belgian farmhouse brewers do not try to make what their neighbor is making. They try to make something they can call their own, but still fits in the style and spirit of farmhouse brewing. It's an incredible "style", or family of beers. I hope everyone here on the BN will go out and try to make some saisons, and start by doing some research, drinking great saisons and reading about how to brew them. Then, when you have a good fundamental knowledge of how to brew a saison, try to put your own mark on the style. Try to make something that is your own but at the same time clearly a wonderful, beautiful farmhouse ale. It's not magic. All the facts are out there to learn and anyone can do it well, with practice.
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