Vienna

Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:59 pm

I am thinking of making a Vienna, but instead of using a Lager yeast I want to use white labs california yeast. From what I have read it should be as clean as a lager yeast, what do you think.
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:11 pm

ferment COLD as hell... you may get it close but I doubt it will be right on, there is just a difference in ale and lager yeasts. The difference may not be noticable unless they are side by side comparisons.
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Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:43 pm

It will not be as clean as a alger yest, IMO. It won't suck, but there WILL be a difference.
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:03 pm

I think I remember Jamil mentioning that, if you had too, it would be better to use a lager yeast at warmer temps than using an ale yeast. It won't be the same as lagering, but should be cleaner. Maybe in the lower 60's? I would go that route. I also think he said to not go with the California Lager strain because of the esters.
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:08 pm

How about a Kolsch strain? It will give you some of the lager characteristics at a low ale temp. Just beware that if you ferment it in the upper range for ales you will get more esters.
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:36 pm

maybe I should clarify what I want to do, that is make a American amber ale ( I know there is no style) with the Vienna recipes but with a different yeast. I would like to make something like Sam Adams Boston ale as a example but my own recipe. I am thinking of using WLP060 American ale yeast blend, maybe doc or the pope could put there 2 cents in thanks
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Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:41 am

Igor wrote:maybe I should clarify what I want to do, that is make a American amber ale ( I know there is no style)


Uh, sure there is an American Amber Ale style

"Overall Impression: Like an American pale ale with more body, more caramel richness, and a balance more towards malt than hops (although hop rates can be significant)."
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Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:37 am

Igor wrote:maybe I should clarify what I want to do, that is make a American amber ale ( I know there is no style) with the Vienna recipes but with a different yeast. I would like to make something like Sam Adams Boston ale as a example but my own recipe. I am thinking of using WLP060 American ale yeast blend, maybe doc or the pope could put there 2 cents in thanks


If you want an answer specifically from Doc or Jamil, perhaps you should PM or e-mail them.
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