Refractometers and evaporation

Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:34 am

When I want to take a gravity reading during a brew day, I will typically dip it out with a tablespoon from the kettle, set the spoon on a bowl for a few minutes to let any particulates settle, then draw a clear sample from the edge of the spoon with a dropper.

I was taking readings at various times during a recent brew day and found my gravity numbers were all quite far above what I expected. Great, though I, free gravity! Must have crushed a bit tighter today or something.

When I was all done, however, I measured a post-chill sample with both the refract and a hydrometer and found my gravity right where I had originally calculated it! I didn't get free points, it was right at my usual 75% efficiency!

I wonder now if I was getting evaporation in the spoon samples that is fast enough to skew the readings. Perhaps I need to be taking a larger sample, or measuring it sooner. Another variable might be the weather - this is the first time I've brewed this year since the weather cooled off, so instead of 90F and high humidity, I had 60F and dry breezes.

Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions on better techniques for using a refractometer, I'd love to hear them!
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:37 am

I just stick a dropper right in the boil kettle and take a sample from there. If you want to chill it, touch an ice cube to the side of the dropper. Otherwise, just put the sample on the lens and it is good to go. The reading will change a little as the sample cools, but I don't think it will be evaporation related.
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:09 pm

I'll try it straight out of the kettle next time and see if that helps.

Hot break and hops and crap in the sample seems to make the line fuzzy, so that's why I was trying to get a cleaner sample.
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:45 am

Ran into the same situation myself yesterday. Refractometer reading pre boil said 1.053 which should have put me somewhere in the mid 60's but finished boil at 59. My numbers besides were all right and I regularly use pro-mash or do the math longhand so I figured my refractometer reading must have been high...
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:19 pm

J.Brew wrote:Ran into the same situation myself yesterday. Refractometer reading pre boil said 1.053 which should have put me somewhere in the mid 60's but finished boil at 59. My numbers besides were all right and I regularly use pro-mash or do the math longhand so I figured my refractometer reading must have been high...


When I got my refractometer I noticed a discrepancy too. On my next brew I took readings with both my hydrometer and refractometer both pre boil and post boil. I then went into the Promash systems settings to the instrument calibration menu. There I changed the Brix correction factor to where I got the same specific gravity readings with both instruments.

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Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:12 am

Thanks for the heads up bug...i'll follow your advice next brew....
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