Re: Tasty's VS Jamil's bottling method

Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:26 pm

11amas wrote:I have seen a brewery's bottling line in a video and they have a counter pressure filler which, right before the capper, has a little squirt of water hit the beer. The water causes some foaming which fills the headspace so they cap perfectly on foam. When I bottle, I get some foaming because I don't chill my bottles beforehand. I just sanitize, fill, some foaming happens and I cap. I have tasted beer a year later and no noticeable oxidization has happened.

That'll work. Of course, you're using glass bottles. Ever used PET (curious)?
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Re: Tasty's VS Jamil's bottling method

Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:01 pm

I haven't used PET but I bet they would work well. I have a couple a friend gave me from his old Mr Beer kit I am tempted to try out. The only thing that I don't like about the squeeze method is the possible reduction in carbonation levels but I guess when I bottle with cool, not "cold" bottles, the foaming I see is a loss of carbonation as well. Definitely worth a side by side comparison!
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Re: Tasty's VS Jamil's bottling method

Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:59 am

11amas wrote:I haven't used PET but I bet they would work well. I have a couple a friend gave me from his old Mr Beer kit I am tempted to try out. The only thing that I don't like about the squeeze method is the possible reduction in carbonation levels but I guess when I bottle with cool, not "cold" bottles, the foaming I see is a loss of carbonation as well. Definitely worth a side by side comparison!

Your concerns are valid. A specific amount of sugar (yeast food) in the bottle will result in the metbolization of correspondingly specific amount of gas & alcohol. You hope it will be a sufficient amount of gas to give your beer the zest you want - knowing full well that some of it must be used up in the head space to maintain pressure on top of the liquid to keep it all in there where you really want it - in the beer. So now ya gotta have some co2 just to "inflate" the bottle back to its uncompressed state (1 atmosphere). Then ya gotta have more to sufficiently fill the liquid & headspace with an ample amount of co2 to do the job. Now that's where you'd want a Fizz Giz. You could burp your bottle, cap it with a Fizz Giz cap & inject just enough co2 to bring the bottle back to its natural shape without pressurizing it above 1 atm. A tiny bit more sugar would do the trick too. Experimenting would help you figure out how much more. I think I'd experiment using yeast & sugarwater - not your precious stash.
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