Another Janet's Brown Question

[TimmyR]

Just checked my notes and found that it starts to hit stride around 6-weeks, although I remember really enjoying it green.

What kind of Cl:SO4 ratio do you find works well? I've used a Pale Ale wate treatment to accentuate the hop bitterness, but think I will lean toward more neutral/balance water for my next batch.

[TimmyR]

So I brewed the famous Janet's Brown this year and sadly it has an overpowering grassy flavor at this stage. I brewed it 10/28 and split the ferment between two carboys pitching WLP001 and WLP007 respectively. The ferment went as expected. I racked to a secondary carboy after 3-weeks to dry-hop and dry-hopped each with 3 oz Centennial and 0.5 oz Citra. I think the Citra may be the culprit but certainly am not sure. My numbers for this batch were OG 1.070, IBUs 51 (Raeger) as calculated by BeerSmith. The recipe.

I suspect the Citra is in some way too much (although I thought 0.5 oz would be a small addition) and somehow clashing with the darker roasty malts.

Has anyone had any experience using Citra in darker beers? I knew it was taking a chance with it, but thought it'd compliment the Centennial.

Size: 11.0 gal
Efficiency: 73.0%
Attenuation: 79.0%

Original Gravity: 1.070 (1.045 - 1.060)
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Terminal Gravity: 1.014 (1.010 - 1.016)
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Color: 21.01 (18.0 - 35.0)
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Alcohol: 6.93% (4.3% - 6.2%)
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Bitterness: 52.7 (20.0 - 40.0)
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Ingredients:
52.0 g Northern Brewer (7.3%) - added during mash
40.0 g Chinook (10.8%) - added during boil, boiled 60.0 m
11.0 g Northern Brewer (7.3%) - added during boil, boiled 60.0 m
60.0 g Northern Brewer (7.3%) - added during boil, boiled 15.0 m
85.0 g Cascade (6.0%) - added during boil, boiled 10.0 m
141.7 g Centennial (8.5%) - added dry to primary fermenter
28.3 g Citra (12.0%) - added dry to primary fermenter
12.3 lb Pale Malt - 2 Row
8.7 lb Pale Ale Malt 2-Row
2.4 lb Crystal Malt - 40L
2.3 lb Carapils
1.8 lb Wheat, White
1.0 lb Chocolate (Briess)
0.6 lb Acidulated
0.19 lb Chocolate Malt
0.04 L White Labs WLP001 California Ale
0.04 L White Labs WLP007 Dry English Ale

Notes
- Pitched 800 ml of each 1.6L starter into each fermenter
- WLP 001 1.012 // WLP 007 1.018

Thanks.

[fuhme420]

I got the All Grain kit today from Morebeer and the numbers in beersmith are way off.
B3 Recipe Sheet 75% Efficiency
12 2row
1lb white wheat
1.25lb c40
.5 chocolate malt

2oz NB @60
1 NB @15
1.5 Cascade @ 10
1.5 Cascade @ 1
2oz Centenial Dry Hop

OG 1065-1070
SRM 18-22
IBU 60-65

when i plug all this into BeerSmith @ 75%, Batch size 5gal
after adjusting AA on Hops...
OG Est 1080
IBU 97.8.

Am i missing something ? should the b3 recipe be at 6gallons? unfortunately they never specify. and i've figuring my setup at 73% so even at that the OG 1078 is still over the B3 Recipe sheet of max 1.070.
as far as IBUs thats also out way off. Even after screwing with Rager, Tinseth and Garetz

Anyone run into this disparity of numbers on b3 recipe sheets?

[LukeD23]

I think 1.5 oz of the Northern Brewer go in the Mash, that might be why the IBUs are so high

[fuhme420]

listening to the CYBI American Brown right now and it looks like B3 omitted the MH when compared to the recipe Jamil gives on the show of McDole's Janet's in 2006. Oh well this beer is going to kick me in the face and i'm going to like it...