Is JP a beer snob

[Ozwald]

I get the bit thing, and I think it's pretty fun, but he has been shitting on IPAs a little too much and it hurts my feeling.

http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=30145&start=336

The funny (or sad) thing is I agree with Jipper 99% of the time. The big difference is that while I love my session beers & think the IPA game that so many breweries are play is pretty stupid, I still love a good hoppy beer. The problem is that this blown out IPA fad isn't producing a lot of good hoppy beers, only hoppy beers... mostly shitty to mediocre hoppy beers at that. I won't discount the entire style because 99% of the ones coming out aren't being produced by people who have the style, or end product, in sight in lieu of the marketing or trying to remain competitive or what have you. I find it funny (not ha ha) that in most cases, beer or not, that a game changing innovation such as the first release of Pliny creates this need to build/improve upon the original yet all we're getting for the most part are 'cheap knock offs' for lack of a better term. Year after year, Pliny stays at the head of the pack even though it's been out for how many years now. It's just not something you see in other things, technology for example. What if, since the invention of the cell phone, no one tried to look at the original & make a 'better' version instead of just making their own version of it, their own take on the idea instead of examining it, finding the weaker points & genuinely trying to improve the original groundwork that was laid?

But I must say I think it's ironic how not only him but a lot of folks think that their palates are superior because they prefer "session beers". Nothing against sessions beers, I love all beers but what's so sophisticated about drinking plain boring beer with low alcohol, low IBUs and not much malt character?

You've obviously never had an amazing session beer. They don't have to be boring, they don't have to have low IBUs & a great one will definitely have a fantastic malt character. What I originally said regarding Jipp's palette had nothing to do with the fact that he enjoys session beers. Whenever they're tasting something take a second to listen to what he's actually saying, especially in the few moments when he's being 100% serious. Also, it's not a 'sophisticated' thing. I enjoy session beers because I like to drink. I don't find it all that much fun to blow out my palette or get too intoxicated to fully appreciate an amazing beer after I've had 2 of them. If it's that mind blowing, I want to drink 12 of them.... and enjoy the last one as much as the first. It's extremely difficult to brew a low gravity beer that's absolutely fantastic. Anyone besides Justin can brew above 1.056 & get a pretty damn good beer out of it. There's tons of places for the flaws to hide. Like great pilsner, it's insanely difficult to dip below 1.038 & still brew something that's flawless all the while having a full flavored beer. However, that doesn't make it 'sophisticated' or better than higher gravity beers.

[NervousDad]

I can agree with most of that. I think that a many breweries hide behind the jacked up IPAs. They make a beer with so much hops and Alcohol that you really can't tell them apart from any other beers. But there are a few exceptions, Heady topper being one of them.

For the session beers, I enjoy a few of them and they way I drink beer (maybe a 1/2 pint a night) they work well for me. But on the weekend I want a BEER, not a tasty beer flavored beverage

[PorkSlapper]

I understand JP. I can drink an IPA every once in awhile but I would much rather have an Oatmeal stout. Just my personal preference.

[dstar26t]

There are very few awesome (and I mean awesome) examples of any of the styles. IPA just happens to be very popular.

[Dirk McLargeHuge]

I understand JP. I can drink an IPA every once in awhile but I would much rather have an Oatmeal stout. Just my personal preference.

I think that's it in a nutshell. I wouldn't say JP's a beer snob. He knows what he likes and he isn't afraid to say so. That's what makes him so dreamy!

[KiltedDrummer]

I understand JP. I can drink an IPA every once in awhile but I would much rather have an Oatmeal stout. Just my personal preference.

I think that's it in a nutshell. I wouldn't say JP's a beer snob. He knows what he likes and he isn't afraid to say so. That's what makes him so dreamy!

I disagree, I think we're finally moving towards the ultimate beer snob. Through poor and/or questionable uses of logic I'll explain. Most people drink BMC, those that drink craft beer are beer snobs. IPA (and this is where the logic gets questionable) has become the American Light Lager of the craft beer world, everybody is expected to have at least one, and probably has 4 that taste close to the same. Craft beer snobs see IPA drinkers as the new BMC drinkers and shun them and the style. Eventually, we'll be down to one beer snob that refuses to drink anything but seasonals from some brewery you've never heard of and will only drink it if nothing like that particular beer has ever been produced by another brewery. It will also need to be sour and only made in a cool ship and only if it's spelled koelschip.

So yes, JP is a beer snob, and he's the first in the next evolutionary jump, like Professor X.

[Dirk McLargeHuge]

I understand JP. I can drink an IPA every once in awhile but I would much rather have an Oatmeal stout. Just my personal preference.

I think that's it in a nutshell. I wouldn't say JP's a beer snob. He knows what he likes and he isn't afraid to say so. That's what makes him so dreamy!

I disagree, I think we're finally moving towards the ultimate beer snob. Through poor and/or questionable uses of logic I'll explain. Most people drink BMC, those that drink craft beer are beer snobs. IPA (and this is where the logic gets questionable) has become the American Light Lager of the craft beer world, everybody is expected to have at least one, and probably has 4 that taste close to the same. Craft beer snobs see IPA drinkers as the new BMC drinkers and shun them and the style. Eventually, we'll be down to one beer snob that refuses to drink anything but seasonals from some brewery you've never heard of and will only drink it if nothing like that particular beer has ever been produced by another brewery. It will also need to be sour and only made in a cool ship and only if it's spelled koelschip.

So yes, JP is a beer snob, and he's the first in the next evolutionary jump, like Professor X.

I wonder how he'd look in spandex?

But if we chase down that rabbit hole everyone is a beer snob, including the Bud Light drinker who doesn't like Lite or Coors Light. Even the guy who once gave me a ten minute argument that Red Dog was the finest beer ever made.

I don't think JP gives a fuck about how to spell cool ship. That's why I say "Snob: No."

[drewbrew86]

^ What that guy said