Re: Goose island

Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:13 pm

I believe that this has the potential to be a positive merger for we lovers of good beer. IF GI's beers maintain their current quality and variety and InBev markets them as I think they will, the market for smaller brewers beers will increase as well. If InBev spent $40mil as an investment in order to just appeal to the fringe market served by GI, then they have spent poorly. I would expect them to market to the same 16-30 year old demographic that they market to now, but their appeal will be to those that a message of "Don't follow the crowd!" will be effective. Basically, anyone that doesn't fall into the jocks/fratboys/dicks or rednecks crowd. They are already marketed to by the mainstream BMC offerings. What InBev will do is market to the others that see themselves as iconoclasts that would never dain to drink such a "Commoner beer" as BudMillerCoors.

IF InBev markets GI this way then the unformed opinions and taste buds of the next generation of beer drinkers will be more amenable to trying the "Weird beers" offered by your beloved local small brewer. When you get right down to it, the only way to expand the market for the beers we like is by marketing. The "I'm a Craft Brewer" marketing video was a waste because it only preached to the choir. And even then, many in the choir got nauseous. Boston Beer, Dogfish Head and a few others have managed to successfully market themselves beyond the beer geek core, but much more will be needed to support the existing breweries as well as the plethora of breweries starting up now. As it stands today, the market reminds me very much of 1996-97.

Back in the 90's there was a steadily growing market for good beer. The problem was, as today, it was a niche market. Where a community could comfortably support one or two small brewers, seemingly overnight three or four more opened up with no commensurate increase in the market. In many cases all but maybe one failed.

My hope is that InBev's marketing will increase market awareness of "the other beers" and create an increased demand for same. Right now there is a 21 year old contemplating which 6-pack he will buy legally for the first time. In 95% of the places he's likely to be standing he's looking at BMC beers. I agree, the distribution system in almost all states is fucked up. But there he is, looking at BMC. How good would it be for the future of good beer for him to be programed by millions of dollars of marketing to consider a GI IPA or even a Bourbon County Stout? I say it would be great, because once his eyes are opened to the fact that all beer doesn't have to taste as bland as the next brand, he will be more inclined to seek out "the other beers".

And getting the kids open to trying things that aren't in the mainstream is what it's all about for us. Forget about anyone over 40, they are set in their ways. Some in their early 30s are possible converts, but the real market is the 16-30 year olds. Lets face it, your local 7bbl brewer does not have the money to market to the demographic he needs to. If an equally as good brewer opens in the same market, his gross will likely be cut in half. Let InBev convince the market that there is more to beer than Bud Light and they will increase market acceptance for better beer.

Well, that's my $0.02.
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Re: Goose island

Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:56 pm

Here's something I was trying to explain to Justin and JP on Facebook, but I don't know if they saw it.

http://www.swnewsherald.com/online_cont ... byists.php
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news ... 6770.story

This has been a battle AB-InBev has been fighting for over a year. They've been trying to buy their own distributor in Illinois, crying foul that Goose Island and I believe Half Acre for having their own distribution. So, what better way to get your own distribution in the state than buying a craft brewery?
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Re: Goose island

Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:33 am

antioch wrote:Here's something I was trying to explain to Justin and JP on Facebook, but I don't know if they saw it.

http://www.swnewsherald.com/online_cont ... byists.php
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news ... 6770.story

This has been a battle AB-InBev has been fighting for over a year. They've been trying to buy their own distributor in Illinois, crying foul that Goose Island and I believe Half Acre for having their own distribution. So, what better way to get your own distribution in the state than buying a craft brewery?

A-B has been distributing Goose Island beers for a few years under a previous agreement.
A-B doesn't own the distibutor. They deliver Goose Island beer to the distributors they use.
If it was legal in Illinois A-B would self distribute and skip the middleman. That is the issue.
The small brewers want to sell beer out of their tasting rooms and brewpubs.
http://www.illinoisbeer.com
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Re: Goose island

Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:04 pm

I thought that goose island owned their own distribution for IL, so buying GI was buying a direct distributor for AB.
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Re: Goose island

Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:07 pm

You still need a distributor to sell other peoples beer, self distibution only applies for craft beers and brewpubs under a certain amount of barrels per year. The three tier system was the legislative way to prevent tied houses, as archaic as it now has become. Here in Kansas we have the same system, and brewpubs can only "distibute" their own product. Even then it is usually thru another local distributer.

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Re: Goose island

Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:35 pm

ajlewis13 wrote:It makes brands like Samuel Adams, Sierra Nevada, and New Belgium seem even more impressive for being able to reach their current level on their own


"Current Level" NOTHING !! Goose Island is going to EXPLODE now !
Haven't you seen the TGIFriday's commercials ?
Think that would have happened before they got bought !?!?

I will still definitely drink their beer when in Chicago. Both of their brewpubs there ROCK.

I will have 2nd thoughts about buying Goose Island here in Ohio though...

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Re: Goose island

Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:29 am

Having lived in Chicago for most of the 00's I had an affinity for GI, but things are definitely going to the ABInBev way IMO. I now live 2 hours south of Chicago and since the buy out can only get 312 (which accounts for half of their sales and is the most "easy drinking") and their summer seasonal (which is also pretty light) here in 12 packs. 312 is an OK beer, but my least favorite of their 12 pack beers. Speaking of 312, it's being made in New York now too, which is a little ironic as it's named after the 312 Chicago area code. http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/ ... 2143.story Honkers wasn't the best beer in the world, but a good 12 pack beer for the price and I wish I could still get it. They've recently changed their menu options and look at the pubs, which I can't say is either good or bad. Luckily I've been brewing a bunch of good beer this summer, so I can just drink my own.
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Re: Goose island

Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:33 am

bee wrote:Speaking of 312, it's being made in New York now


I had heard this was just until AB-Inbev built them the new brewery in the Chicagoland area, obviously it doesn't make sense to produce something in New York and then fly it all back to Chicago.

As far as buying GI, a good beer is a good beer imo. Support local but unless we are all living in an area that has Dogfish Head, Lagunitas, Sierra Nevada, Cantillon, and New Belgium (to name a scant few), it just isn't practical for my variety craving taste buds.

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