fucking feelings again. sorry.

[Dirk McLargeHuge]

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[yellowcolumbia]

[Sam Scott]

So many choices...

[BrewTa2]

That one is great! yellowcolumbia has the definitive cast of characters!

[BigNastyBrew]

Those guys were trying to putt a lot of weight on the fact that they make beer. Why?

they were putting too much social value on the fact that they make beer. Part-Time. At home.

Not charged up but these 2 go hand in hand. I feel (fucking feelings) the same way SCH does about this. No, it's not about the video, it's about the "just beer" sentiment.

Brewing at home. Part time.... is exactly why "they" put so much value on it. I work a lot of fucking hours and I go to school full time. And I have a wife and 4 kids. When I make an outstanding beer (to me at least), I'm VERY proud of it for the simple fact that I DON'T get paid to do it. I HAVEN'T had formal training. I DON'T get the opportunity to work in the business day in and day out...constant exposure to people, ideas, equipment, festivals, radio...whatever.

No, I brew beer (and good beer) and study beer like SCH does. It's my relief from the rest of the world (since I'm not in the industry). It makes me feel (fucking feelings) very accomplished that I can create those works with grass seeds, flowers, and controlled infections. Professional brewers are brewers. Home brewers are business-people, day care providers, construction workers, code writers. So when I can drink a beer I made and like it much more than a commercial example of a similar style, then yes, I place a HUGE value to that.

I suppose because I do the same things you do - without the kids and wife part - and I don't really think it is a special enough thing to crow about, that I say it's just beer. It was never meant to de-value the act of home brewing, it was just to bring those specific people in the video back to earth. Sorry if I offended anyone who makes beer at home. But I bet that if someone who made quilts at home and had the same time contraints as you do would be getting the business over saying "I am a quilter".

I may work in the beer industry, but my work is selling equipment and doing web stuff, ad copy, etc. It's not like I'm brewing 3 times a day at work. So I understand that people are passionate about homebrewing - that is what I love about this hobby - all I was trying to do was to make people realize that they should relax, that we aren;t changing the world. Homebrewing has changed my life, and I support it and the people that do it. I just don't want to be preached to.

Believe it or not, I see where you're coming from and disagree with you but respect it, regardless.

The difference between our hobby and others is that Beer is something that is fairly universally accepted (yes, I understand there are countries where alcohol is forbidden). You can always say "let's go grab a beer" or sit on your back porch and talk about things over a beer. People have been communicating while consuming beer for centuries.

Quilt making on the other hand (or model building or bird watching or any other hobby) has not drawn people together in the manner beer has. It draws people together, sure. But only those people interested in the art of quilt making to begin with. Beer brings brewers, non brewers, members of societies all over the world in general together.

Eve bought a CD full of Irish Quilt Making Songs? I've seen plenty of drinking song CD's.

Just throwing that out there.

[bleachcola]

Believe it or not, I see where you're coming from and disagree with you but respect it, regardless.

The difference between our hobby and others is that Beer is something that is fairly universally accepted (yes, I understand there are countries where alcohol is forbidden). You can always say "let's go grab a beer" or sit on your back porch and talk about things over a beer. People have been communicating while consuming beer for centuries.

Quilt making on the other hand (or model building or bird watching or any other hobby) has not drawn people together in the manner beer has. It draws people together, sure. But only those people interested in the art of quilt making to begin with. Beer brings brewers, non brewers, members of societies all over the world in general together.

Eve bought a CD full of Irish Quilt Making Songs? I've seen plenty of drinking song CD's.

Just throwing that out there.

So then cooking is the ultimate hobby. Food is literally universal, not technically universal.

[Dirk McLargeHuge]

Believe it or not, I see where you're coming from and disagree with you but respect it, regardless.

The difference between our hobby and others is that Beer is something that is fairly universally accepted (yes, I understand there are countries where alcohol is forbidden). You can always say "let's go grab a beer" or sit on your back porch and talk about things over a beer. People have been communicating while consuming beer for centuries.

Quilt making on the other hand (or model building or bird watching or any other hobby) has not drawn people together in the manner beer has. It draws people together, sure. But only those people interested in the art of quilt making to begin with. Beer brings brewers, non brewers, members of societies all over the world in general together.

Eve bought a CD full of Irish Quilt Making Songs? I've seen plenty of drinking song CD's.

Just throwing that out there.

So then cooking is the ultimate hobby. Food is literally universal, not technically universal.

+1. Again. We're reading waay too much into drinking beer. If we're not careful, we're going to be like the wine snobs. Besides, my local Barnes and Noble has 6 beer books, three homebrewing books versus 15 linear feet of quilting books. Quilt shows in some areas can attract tens of thousands of people. Quilters have produced more hours of PBS programming than any brewer or homebrewer.