Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:14 pm

stout actually "happend" in england first, it started out as porter, and evolved from there
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Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:18 pm

right.. as extra stout porter.. so why the roast? I have heard that the brew must have roasted to be a stout, is that true? porters then, were more brown and a bit less dark to my understanding.
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