cybi - Green Flash IPA

[nahthan]

Thanks for the mash info. I've been trying to clone this IPA for a while now and thanks to the show I've got some hard data-great work to everyone involved on the BN!

Another quick question for Nathan and Tasty: Green Flash's WC IPA has a brilliant clarity which I'm guessing is the result of filtration, given that the dry hopping would haze the beer. How did the clone's clarity compare to the commercial version? Do you guys recommend filtering dry-hopped brews for competition?

According to the current BJCP guidelines IPAs and Imperial IPAs can display some haziness from dry-hopping. Just curious what you guys think--I'm new to competitions and want to present the best beer possible.

Thanks much.
Greg

Greg,
Yes, you can use a very rough filter to get any remaining yeast/hops out of solution. I think this can strip out a little of the hop flavor/nose, but you can compensate for this by bumping up the dry hop another 25%+ or so. Tasty has talked about this a few times before on the show. Speaking as a BJCP judge I consider some haziness acceptable in American IPAs, especially Imperial IPAs. With appearance as only 3 points/50, that's only 6% of the entire score. If you get a judge who doesn't like to see that haze, if you follow the rest of this recipe your color should be spot on with that 8% C40/carapils and all of the hops in this beer will definitely help you out with head retention, so you'd be at least 2 out of 3 points.
Try it side by side to find out for sure how filtering responds to your process. I brewed 10 gallons of this recipe when brewing it for the radio show. 5 gallons went into a carboy with WLP001, and the other 5 went into a carboy with WLP060 (Cal Ale Blend). 001 finished at 1.015. 060 finished at 1.012. The 001 batch was kindly filtered by Tasty so it would be ready in time for the show, the 060 batch was not. Same dry hop regimen on each. 001 is the one that we tasted on the show. 060 was kegged a few days later after the show was done. Side by side, they're very very close, of course the 060 has some haze compared to the 001. I prefer the 060 slightly because it's a touch drier and the aroma/flavor of the hops is a little stronger. The difference is pretty negligible though.

[Gridiron Brewer]

I brewed this recipe up on Friday and it came out awesome. Instead of the Cal ale yeast, I used a yeast cake of saf-ale 04 from an Irish red that I rinsed with distilled water to separate the white milky yeast from the other trub. My OG was a bit lower (1067), but everything else seems spot on. I've listened through the show two or three times now and cannot recall the dry hopping regime. I have the volumes, just not the dry hop times.

How long after primary fermentation completes to commence DH?
How long to DH?

Thanks

[nahthan]

I brewed this recipe up on Friday and it came out awesome. Instead of the Cal ale yeast, I used a yeast cake of saf-ale 04 from an Irish red that I rinsed with distilled water to separate the white milky yeast from the other trub. My OG was a bit lower (1067), but everything else seems spot on. I've listened through the show two or three times now and cannot recall the dry hopping regime. I have the volumes, just not the dry hop times.

How long after primary fermentation completes to commence DH?
How long to DH?

Thanks

Hey Grid,
Cool that you did this one and it's worked out well so far - it makes a damn fine IPA.
Start dry hopping at 7 days into fermentation, keep it on the dry hop for 7 days total. But, I understand people get busy, lazy, etc.. So it might go a couple extra days on the dry hop, which is OK, just don't push it though. Really don't let it sit more than about 10 days on the dry hop.. Gently agitate the solution about every 3 days or so during the dry hop to help get those hop oils dissolved into solution. Cheers, and report back with the final result.

-Nahthan

[Herms]

Hey,

Could somebody post the Green Flash IPA recipe. I listened to the recipe part of the show a few times, and just want to make sure I got it correct. I'm ok on the hops, just need the malt bill. What I heard seemed little high on specialty grains, or just higher than my usual grain bill.

Thanks,

Mark

[Gridiron Brewer]

Thanks for the dry hopping info. The head dropped on my primary (5 days in; 6.5-g carboy) and I am going to transfer to a secondary (5-g carboy) day 6 or 7 onto the hops; for the 7 days, then into a keg for force carbing.

Grain Bill
14 pounds 2 row
1.31 pounds crystal 40 (or carastan)
1.31 pounds carapils

[nahthan]

Hey,

Could somebody post the Green Flash IPA recipe. I listened to the recipe part of the show a few times, and just want to make sure I got it correct. I'm ok on the hops, just need the malt bill. What I heard seemed little high on specialty grains, or just higher than my usual grain bill.

Thanks,

Mark

Hey Mark,
I posted the full recipe as used on the show in this thread:
http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=13510&hilit=green+flash
Check it out and let me know if you have any questions. I agree, the specialty grain bill is a bit more aggressive than I would normally do for this type of beer. Since this was my first time brewing it I was a bit worried it wouldn't attenuate fully. My batch for the show definitely did attenuate exactly where Green Flash IPA does. So, as Jamil always advises: try the written, tested recipe once as is and then adjust it up and down based on your system and personal preferences. I thoroughly enjoyed this IPA recipe and save for about 6 bottles I saved, all 5 gallons went quickly. Brew it up, drink and enjoy.

-Nathan