BLACK IPA (CASCADIA DARK ALE)

[ipaisay2.0]

again...."bullshit IPA"

enough said. stop the thread. now.

[straight cash homey]

im making an imperial northwest cascadian ale, INCA ale for short,(yes I double used ale but i like the sound of saying, pass me another INCA ale holmes) with triple the sinamar

and i think its formerly ipaisay, not formally, your old names not getting ready for prom. sayin

[herbaljoe]

again...."bullshit IPA"

enough said. stop the thread. now.

No one's forcing you to read it.

[ipaisay2.0]

All beer styles have their place and this one is here to stay (for good reasons I might add). As far as calling it by some sort of name, Black IPA just describes what it is, not where it is from. Black IPA says more about the beer than any other name. Let the beer just speak for itself.


Thanks Straight Cash for your heads up.

[Chaz]

Having a longtime interest in US Secession (especially Cascadian and Alaskan) and related movements (like the State of Jefferson or Free State Project) I find it interesting to see it's a beer that's sparking such a renewed interest in throwing around the word Cascadian around and introducing the general public to ideas of secession (like with Hopworks Secession BIPA). I guess it shouldn't be surprising seeing how beer and politics seem to be intertwined throughout history.

I think American Dark Strong sounds like of cool, though I think Black IPA is straight to the point. Oxymoron? Maybe, but does IPA have meaning anymore? Most people (maybe not people here) probably don't even know what IPA means and just associate it as a non-dark beer with lots of hops.

[JP]

Is anyone really suggesting that a black IPA was first brewed in the Pac Northwest? If this is truly a homebrew-driven "style", which is sounds like it is, I'm SURE someone at some point has made a black IPA with NW hops before outside of the Pac NW. It just had to have happened, because it's not all that creative off a style, to be honest. . So if you are going to pollute the style guidelines with this lame new style, don't make it regional, because you cannot be 100% sure that's where it came from.

[Dirk McLargeHuge]

Is anyone really suggesting that a black IPA was first brewed in the Pac Northwest? If this is truly a homebrew-driven "style", which is sounds like it is, I'm SURE someone at some point has made a black IPA with NW hops before outside of the Pac NW. It just had to have happened, because it's not all that creative off a style, to be honest. . So if you are going to pollute the style guidelines with this lame new style, don't make it regional, because you cannot be 100% sure that's where it came from.

A couple of years ago, I heard an interview on another podcast (Craft Brewer Radio) who interviewed an Aussie brew pub owner who made a black IPA. Last year, Zymurgy published another Black IPA recipe from Australia, Murray's, I think. Beyond that, the only time I have heard of black IPAs is at NHC. Maybe Australia Dark Ale?

[Chaz]

It's been speculated that Gregory Noonan started brewing them in Vermont as far back as the late 80's-early 90's:

Just a few weeks back I was contacted by Mitch Steele (brewmaster of Stone Brewing Co.) because back in the spring of 2006 he had tasted his ‘first’ black ipa – Darkside from The Shed Brewery. He is conducting some research into the India Pale Ale category and I had to inform him that my own inspiration for the beer had come from Kimmich at the Alchemist… whose own inspiration had come from brewing Blackwatch IPA at Vermont Pub and Brewery in the mid 90s… a recipe that John had ‘resurrected’ from Noonan’s archives from the early days at VPB. Three breweries in Vermont had created black IPAs by the end of 2005 – evidently a Vermont original.

I didn't really see a bunch of them start popping up until Stone made their 11th Anniversary Ale, which was 2007.