Man I F**ked up

[speed]

that was worth posting twice

[Field]

"society" passes laws against DUI because fucking asshole politicians are grandstanding for their retarded constituents, all because Neo-prohibtionist groups like MADD have convinced the stupid they care about safety and not banning alcohol

.08 is a fucking joke

[jscholtes]

Society passes laws against DUI because fucking asshole politicians are grandstanding for their retarded constituents, all because Neo-prohibtionist groups like MADD have convinced the stupid they care about safety and not banning alcohol

.08 is a fucking joke

Our politicians pass laws against DUI because some people drive drunk and kill other people. Laws may vary by state but most I have been in are .08. Many more seasoned drinkers feel that a .08 alcohol level has no effect on them. They may be right, but for many or even most people .08 is drunk and not a joke at all.

I drink a pretty fair amount, mostly of high gravity beers and mead. I never get behind the wheel after I've had a few without waiting at least few hours, and if I did get pulled over for drunken driving, the only person I would have to blame is me. The only person that you should be angry at is you.

[Ozwald]

Many more seasoned drinkers feel that a .08 alcohol level has no effect on them. They may be right, but for many or even most people .08 is drunk and not a joke at all.

What I learned about myself after buying a breathalyzer was that I feel completely fine up until .09-.10. It's right around .12 when I think I'm starting to get close to the limit. The problem is that I'm drunk at the time & my judgment is already off. I don't feel that a .08 has an effect on me, but I know it does. I think that's one of the biggest dangers of our hobby - it builds a tolerance, you can have the best intentions but you're still fucked up. I'd agree that most seasoned drinkers aren't going to feel it at .08, but I disagree that it has no effect. The seasoned drinker is just going to be more accustomed to the feeling & is able to unconsciously compensate to make it look & feel like he's not intoxicated to himself and the others around him.

I highly recommend a breathalyzer for anyone. You can guess if you're ok or not, but if you don't actually know, you don't know. As I mentioned before, there were 2 times I was going to drive & felt ok. Both times I was hovering around a .10. Without the device, I guarantee I would've gotten behind the wheel. I would've probably made it home safe without killing myself or anyone else, but probably just isn't good enough.

By the way, I have the AlcoMate Prestige. Not saying this is the place to get it from or the best price, just so you have a reference point. I think I got mine for roughly 80-90 bucks or so.
http://www.alcotester.com/products/Alco ... gwodrBCaaw

[Field]

Society passes laws against DUI because fucking asshole politicians are grandstanding for their retarded constituents, all because Neo-prohibtionist groups like MADD have convinced the stupid they care about safety and not banning alcohol

.08 is a fucking joke

Our politicians pass laws against DUI because some people drive drunk and kill other people. Laws may vary by state but most I have been in are .08. Many more seasoned drinkers feel that a .08 alcohol level has no effect on them. They may be right, but for many or even most people .08 is drunk and not a joke at all.

I drink a pretty fair amount, mostly of high gravity beers and mead. I never get behind the wheel after I've had a few without waiting at least few hours, and if I did get pulled over for drunken driving, the only person I would have to blame is me. The only person that you should be angry at is you.

We have a law against that, it's called murder.

[BrewerBC]

Many more seasoned drinkers feel that a .08 alcohol level has no effect on them. They may be right, but for many or even most people .08 is drunk and not a joke at all.

What I learned about myself after buying a breathalyzer was that I feel completely fine up until .09-.10. It's right around .12 when I think I'm starting to get close to the limit. The problem is that I'm drunk at the time & my judgment is already off. I don't feel that a .08 has an effect on me, but I know it does. I think that's one of the biggest dangers of our hobby - it builds a tolerance, you can have the best intentions but you're still fucked up. I'd agree that most seasoned drinkers aren't going to feel it at .08, but I disagree that it has no effect. The seasoned drinker is just going to be more accustomed to the feeling & is able to unconsciously compensate to make it look & feel like he's not intoxicated to himself and the others around him.

I highly recommend a breathalyzer for anyone. You can guess if you're ok or not, but if you don't actually know, you don't know. As I mentioned before, there were 2 times I was going to drive & felt ok. Both times I was hovering around a .10. Without the device, I guarantee I would've gotten behind the wheel. I would've probably made it home safe without killing myself or anyone else, but probably just isn't good enough.

Well said Ozwald. I wish i would have bought that breathalyzer I have been eying at the homebrew shop then i would have known I was over the limit (.11) and waited a while to get behind the wheel. You are right about the mind playing tricks on you. Live and learn. Cheers