Recipe Conversion

Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:49 pm

I don't have Pro Mash or Beersmith or any software to use. I've brewed a few extract & steeped grain recipes. It seems easier to find AG recipes, though, so is there a web conversion tool available? I've read the chapters in "How to Brew" a couple of times and find the information a bit confusing. I need to limit my grains to about 5#, and I'm not able to do full boils yet (c'mon Christmas - bring me a new brewpot!).

What I would really like is an extract/steeped clone for Great Divide Oak-Aged Yeti Imperial Stout.

Besides all that, it's time to start working out my own recipes and ideas. I just need a little help getting started. Thanks.

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Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:25 am

Both Promash and beersmith have free downloads. See if they can convert this for you.
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:28 am

I use pro mash, it's great for calculations. The free version does everything except save recipes, check it out.
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:09 pm

I downloaded the Pro Mash evaluation. Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see where it performs a conversion from AG to Partial or Extract. I see the radio buttons for those options, but I did not see anything in the recipe change.

Here's what I input:
15.25 lb American 2-row malt
1.00 lb Crystal malt (120L)
12 oz Chocolate malt
12 oz Black Patent malt
10 oz roasted barley
8 oz flaked wheat
8 oz flaked rye
1.0 oz Chinook hops (13aa) 60 min
0.5 oz Chinook hops (13aa) 30 min
0.5 oz Centenial hops (10.5aa) 15 min
0.5 oz Centenial hops (10.5aa) 5 min
Wyeast 1056 (American Ale) -OR- WhiteLabs WLP001 (California Ale) yeast
1 cup corn sugar (for priming)
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:35 pm

Promash doesn't convert recipes by itself. What it does is help you to do it yourself.

the problem is here, these 2 grains MUST be mashed.
8 oz flaked wheat
8 oz flaked rye

You can substitute the flaked wheat out along with a lb of base malt for a lb of wheat DME (check the specs to figure out exactly how much).

Rye, however, has no extract. You MUST do a partial mash to include rye in the grain bill:

8lbs Briess Gold DME 8L
1lb Briess Weizen DME 8L
1lb American 2 row 2L
12 oz Chocolate malt
12 oz Black Patent malt
10 oz roasted barley
8 oz flaked rye
1.0 oz Chinook hops (13aa) 60 min
0.5 oz Chinook hops (13aa) 30 min
0.5 oz Centenial hops (10.5aa) 15 min
0.5 oz Centenial hops (10.5aa) 5 min
Wyeast 1056 (American Ale) -OR- WhiteLabs WLP001 (California Ale) yeast
1 cup corn sugar (for priming)


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Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:52 am

Can I steep the flaked wheat/flaked rye along with the specialty grains? There's not that much difference between the two, is there?
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:04 am

These grains should be mashed together:

1lb American 2 row 2L
12 oz Chocolate malt
12 oz Black Patent malt
10 oz roasted barley
8 oz flaked rye

The flaked grains must be mashed (ie, steeped in the presence of enzymes from the base malt). That's why I added the 2 row pale malt.
(The wheat malt extract covers the inclusion of the flaked wheat, so that's less grain you need to mash).

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Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:52 am

Ahh, I get it. I missed the 2-row when I read it. That looks really good, thanks BDawg.

So how do I learn to do conversions? Maybe I should find a "simple" low gravity brew and experiment with it until it becomes what I'm looking for. Than apply that knowledge to converting something like this RIS.
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