Looking for partial mash recipe

[Jouglet]

Hello all,

I have been brewing for about 5 years off and on and have always been an extract w/ steeping specialty grains kind-of guy. I really want to try a partial mash if only to say I did it. I'm ok on the procedure, but I am looking for a good recipe. (Sorry! Didn't know if I should have posted this question in the recipe forum).

I'm looking for a light colored beer. I just brewed a stout so I need something to contrast that. I would prefer a recipe that really shows off the partial mash process. In other words, something that I probably couldn't brew just using extracts. I'm thinking of a Rye or Wheat beer, but I'm open to anything really.

Any suggestions on a partial mash recipe I can try????

THANK YOU!!!

[Ozbrewer]

i would suggest a wheat, just replace some of your fermetables with matled wheat and barley


do you have any brewing software?, i can formulate something in promash for you if you like, but the guts of it is replace as much of the fermantable with gran as you can

[Jouglet]

Thank for the reply. I do not have promash, but I was playing around with beertools.com. I found this allgrain recipe in one of my books for a wheat:

5lbs Wheat Malt
3lbs 2row
.5 10-L Munich Malt
1 oz. Hallertau (Pellets, 4.50 %AA) boiled 60 min.
.5 oz. Hallertau (Pellets, 4.50 %AA) boiled 30 min.
.5 oz. Hallertau (Pellets, 4.50 %AA) boiled 5 min.

Now... since I can't do an all-grain, I need to substitude some extract for the grains. In Ray Daniels book, it says to substitude .68lbs of liquid extract to each pound of grain replaced (assuming 70% mash efficiency). Maybe I get rid of all the 2-row and replace with extract and then some of the wheat as well. Therefore, my partial mash may be 4lbs of Wheat Malt and .5 Munich Malt. The rest is wheat/pale malt extract.


What do you think?

[Ozbrewer]

that may work, but remember that wheat malt does not have a husk, so its going to be a bugge to mash, you will need to do a proteine rest, and you will need to use ruce hulls in the mash also to allow it to run off. Not imposible , but maybe a bit much for the first mash....

maybe a koelsch would be better???

Also as far as im aware, wheat malt extract is not 100% wheat malt

[bub]

Wheat extract is usually between 40 and 60 % Wheat (usually 50-60%)
that looks like a bad one to start with...
BUB

[Homegrown Hops]

I have never considered a partial mash method but if I were to try I would use wheat malt extract and the 2-row pale grain. I would probably throw some flaked wheat in with the mash since its already gelatinized and some oats for mouth feel. I am making an AG wheat in the morning.

HH

[Jouglet]

Oh man. I may be in trouble then! I already went to my homebrew store last night and bought the ingredients. Here's what I purchased:

3 lbs Wheat Malt 2.5L
1 lb Great Western 2-row 1.9L
1 lb Munich Malt 8L
2 lbs Dry Wheat Malt Extract
1 lb Light DME
2 oz Hallertau, Hersbrucker 3.8% AAU
Irish Moss (Not sure if I should use this yet. Don't I want the beer to be cloudy?)
White Labs American Hefe-weizen WLP320 (Did my yeast starter last night)

Brew day is tomorrow. (Saturday)

The reason I was going to do a partial mash was really to get my feet wet before I take on all-grain. I do NOT have a mash or lauter tun. I was planning on taking all my grains and putting them into a large mesh bag and soaking them at 150 degrees for 40 mins. I was then going to figure out how to recirculate the wort through the grains and then pour 170 degree water through the mesh bag to rinse the grains. Then I would add my dry extract and more water if needed. Bring to boil and proceed as normal.

My efficiency is probably going to be about 50%!!!! Ouch.

I know this isn't idea, but I won't have to worry about getting a stuck-mash since I'm using a mesh-bag to hold the grains. I therefore don't need to worry about the rice hulls as Oz mentioned. I'm also not sure I need to do a protein rest. Wasn't planning on that part and the wheat grains should be modified enough where I don't need to do this.

Need some advice here. Do my ingredients look ok? Comments on the process? Tomorrow's the big day! No going back now.

[Homegrown Hops]

I think that you can get away with it since you are using a bag. You wont have a manifold to clog so that shouldnt be an issue. All you need for a protein rest is a pot big enough for your grain and water or a bucket would work also. A protein rest maybe helpful in the future but not required. If you were using unmalted wheat that would change things. I would go ahead and brew the recipe you have and adjust in future batches to fit your liking.

HH