Re: Using Keggle as Brew Kettle Question

Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:40 am

BadRock wrote:Call me naive, but don't you end up transferring everything out of the kettle into your fermentor with this type of pickup? I have always thought of making/using this sort of tube but it seems that your would end up with all the break material in your fermentor. Doesn't this cause you any problems? Just curious.


You are naive. just sayin'

But I was wondering the same thing. I was on Denny's page today as I listened to the Denny Conn show from 2006 and i wondered how he was keeping break material out simply becasue I'm planning my upgrade to full boils. I understood from previous shows that you want to try and keep break material out, but since I'm doing stovetop partial boils with no chiller, and I just dump into a bucket or funnel into a carboy all my junk (heh, junk) just goes into the primary anyway. Yet, somehow, life goes on and the wort ferments.

One thought I had was to use a longer piece of tube that went all the way around the edge of the kettle so your whirlpool cone could stay in the middle. But then I remembered fluid dynamics and the cone would just flatten out probably get picked up anyway.
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Re: Using Keggle as Brew Kettle Question

Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:32 pm

Neuron_Theory wrote:One thought I had was to use a longer piece of tube that went all the way around the edge of the kettle so your whirlpool cone could stay in the middle. But then I remembered fluid dynamics and the cone would just flatten out probably get picked up anyway.


This is what I use and it works pretty good. Although I have clogged it with an enormous amount of whole hops.

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Re: Using Keggle as Brew Kettle Question

Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:55 pm

What about using a copper pickup tube slanted toward the side of the kettle and using Jamils Whirlpool chiller?


Will that leave most of the trub behing?
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Re: Using Keggle as Brew Kettle Question

Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:06 pm

schapiro1 wrote:What about using a copper pickup tube slanted toward the side of the kettle and using Jamils Whirlpool chiller?


Will that leave most of the trub behing?

I tried this first:

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Left too much wort behind.

This works much better:

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Re: Using Keggle as Brew Kettle Question

Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:21 pm

BadRock wrote:
Neuron_Theory wrote:One thought I had was to use a longer piece of tube that went all the way around the edge of the kettle so your whirlpool cone could stay in the middle. But then I remembered fluid dynamics and the cone would just flatten out probably get picked up anyway.


This is what I use and it works pretty good. Although I have clogged it with an enormous amount of whole hops.

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That is pretty much what I had in mind. You must be some kind of super-genius! The braid prevents picking up a lot of break and pellet hop material?
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Re: Using Keggle as Brew Kettle Question

Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:42 pm

Neuron_Theory wrote:That is pretty much what I had in mind. You must be some kind of super-genius! The braid prevents picking up a lot of break and pellet hop material?


Yep, that's the idea! Like I say, works pretty good but I have clogged it.
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Re: Using Keggle as Brew Kettle Question

Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:48 am

BadRock wrote:
Neuron_Theory wrote:That is pretty much what I had in mind. You must be some kind of super-genius! The braid prevents picking up a lot of break and pellet hop material?


Yep, that's the idea! Like I say, works pretty good but I have clogged it.

I used to use the same thing and the fucker clogged almost every time :evil:

I use something similar to this now and I just calculate an extra 1/2 gallon to all my recipes to account for the lost wort:
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Re: Using Keggle as Brew Kettle Question

Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:29 am

You need to make some decisions...

Do you care if hot break goes into your fermentor?
Do you plan to regularly use pellet hops?

These things will affect the sort of pick-up tube you can/should use.

If you are the type of brewer who just transfers everything into the fermentor and sorts it out by racking... then just a bit of copper tube straight from the tap to the bottom most part of the kettle - you want every last drop.

If you regularly use pellet hops... a braid screen like Badrock's will filter most of the hop and break material out... but will clog like a bastard with the pellets. Not every time, but enough to make you regret it.

If you whirlpool and are willing to leave behind a couple of litres of wort - a tube that bends around to the side and picks up from a height thats usually free of break and hop material after a whilpool. No need for little holes etc, just the pipe.

You are just going to have to look at a bunch of systems, and work out which sort of pick-up tube matches the way you plan to brew. ALL hte variations work... they just have their plus and minus points.
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