Whirlpooling with a spoon

[buffburgo]

Real simple question/situation....
For those of you who whirlpool your cooled wort with a spoon, hoping the trub settles to the center of the kettle, how long to you a) stir it and b) let it sit before drawing off?
I use a turkey fry kettle with a built in spigot on the side and I always tend to pull way too much trub for my liking into my fermenter.

[Crut]

I have modified keg for a BK with a spigot and use a spoon for WP (soon to change to pump WP) 10 minute before flameout I'll add my irish moss or whirlflock. at flameout i'll stir for 3-4 minutes, enough to have a good solid whirlpool flow going, then i leave it alone for 20 minutes. Dont even look at it. 20 minutes latter open the valve and if everything goes right, you should get decently trub free wort. Oh and I have a 90* copper bend inside my BK to pull the wort from the side of the kettle. Seems to have less chance of drawing the trub and hops from the pile.
-Crut

[Crut]

also check out the B3 forum and search for MullerBrau. I followed the same thing he did for his BK and whirlpool. Worth a look.
heres the link to a good thread with his kettle-pics:
http://forums.moreflavor.com/viewtopic. ... ht=#256778
-Crut

[DannyW]

Real simple question/situation....
For those of you who whirlpool your cooled wort with a spoon, hoping the trub settles to the center of the kettle, how long to you a) stir it and b) let it sit before drawing off?

I stirred however long it took to get the whirlpool to rise up almost to the edge of the kettle. I figure that is as fast as it can possibly go, so there is no point in stirring any more than that.

I let mine sit at least 45 minutes to settle, sometimes an hour or more depending on what I am doing. There is a remarkable difference between 30 and 45 min.

[buffburgo]

thanks for the info and the link to the B3 forum. I didn't search there cuz it's usually blocked by the stupid firewall at work.
Anyway, I didn't know that it's the hotbreak that cones, and that the cold break doesn't really cone. I don't have an immersion chiller, so it'd be hard for me to whirlpool hot, but I'll give it a shot next brew day. I typically have been trying to whirlpool after I cooled it with the Imersion and let it sit for about 10 min.
I have also been running out of the kettle spigot into a funnel with screen, which does a great job of collecting crap, but also clogs real quick and slows the show down in a hurry. I've been considering other ways to "filter" outside of the spigot, but haven't come up with anything good yet.

Hopefully, I'll have a 3-tier sculpture setup by then, so I won't need to be carrying the kettle all over the place for cooling/racking/whirlpooling like I do now.

[J.Brew]

I let mine sit at least 45 minutes to settle, sometimes an hour or more depending on what I am doing. There is a remarkable difference between 30 and 45 min.

Are you chilling first and then whirl pooling, or do you run your immersion chiller and whirlpool manually at the same time? I used to chill and then whirlpool, but the cold break just broke up into solution again so it took a lot of time to settle back out. My last brew I started the whirlpool and then set my immersion chiller in and did both at the same time, I'm curious about the results of the different methods.

[DannyW]

I used to chill while standing at the kettle moving the immersion chiller around, then remove chiller, whirlpool, walk away for 45 min.

Now I have a JZ whirlpool chiller, so the whirlpool and chilling happen at the same time. 20 min with hose water gets me to 85F, then 10 min with icewater to get to 65F. Then I turn off both pumps and let everything sit right like it is for 45 min. Then pump to the fermenters, pinching the hose a bit to make it foam up when it hits the bucket.

[Crut]

I finally said enough stirring with a spoon this week and created my whirlpooler ala crut style. I drilled a hole in the upper skirt on my keg and attached a 1/2" hose barb fitting to the outside. To the inside I screwed on a 1/2" NPT female copper union and a 90* downbend, to a peice of Cu tubing, down to another 90* bend to counter clockwise flow the wort. That was all i need to do is hook up the hose from the bk and pump to the fitting and let it rip. (hopefully). No more spooning pics to come later
-Crut