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 Post subject: Blichmann Top Tier: Reviews, Pics, Tips, etc.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:37 pm 
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This product has been available for quite a while now, someone other than Rock-Candy must own one.

I have to admit, I'm interested. I imagine kettles and a control panel and pump attached to the t-slots.

Pics, reviews, stories?

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 Post subject: Re: Blichmann Top Tier: Reviews, Pics, Tips, etc.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:25 pm 
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andy77 wrote:
I imagine kettles and a control panel and pump attached to the t-slots.


I imagine saving a couple hundred bucks and building my own that's customized to my brewing style.

Just sayin'

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 Post subject: Re: Blichmann Top Tier: Reviews, Pics, Tips, etc.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:40 am 
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I may end up there in the long run myself, but that is alot of $$ to part with as far as I'm concerned. I actually built a 2 tier stand out of pressure treated wood and topped it with trex decking. I know that wood may not be the best material when dealing with propane burners, but I have had no problems and am really happy with the results. It has gotten me to the point where I no longer have to lift heavy buckets, pots, etc filled with hot water over my head. Probably cost me $30...Additionally, since it is wood, I can continue to add to it as I see fit over time. Worst case scenario it doesn't work out and I am out $30. Best case scenario I save myself $800. Just a thought. Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Blichmann Top Tier: Reviews, Pics, Tips, etc.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:26 am 
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I have one with 2 burners (no shelves) that I have brewed about a dozen batches on. I use the top burner for the HLT, and the middle burner for my Mash Tun. I run from that to my older Bayou Classic Banjo Burner for the boil. I am very happy with the setup as is, but I am already thinking of ways to expand it. Next up is probably a march pump mounted on the T-slots for Vorlauffing.

Pluses: The thing looks great, is very sturdy, and was pretty easy to assemble (took me about four hours, including the gas manifold). I know others have complained about having to build the gas manifold (only if you have multiple burners), but it was really easy, cost me less than $10 (cast iron pipes and gas teflon tape), and makes pretty good sense (no need to sacrifice the flexibility of the system with a prefabricated manifold). Very simple to operate--I feel much more comfortable not lifting 175 degree sparge water above my head as I can heat it in place). Infinite expansion possibilities and less expensive than other brew sculptures.

Minuses: It is big and heavy with the two burners (about 150 lbs). Moving it from my garage to the patio is a pain. I am thinking about making a cover for it with tarps so I can leave it in place.

I will try and get a picture of the system when I brew later today and post it.

Slainte!

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 Post subject: Re: Blichmann Top Tier: Reviews, Pics, Tips, etc.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:16 pm 
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Couldn't take a picture during today's brew session, but here is a shot from a previous brew:

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 Post subject: Re: Blichmann Top Tier: Reviews, Pics, Tips, etc.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:43 pm 
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What size are those kettles?

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 Post subject: Re: Blichmann Top Tier: Reviews, Pics, Tips, etc.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:30 pm 
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The bottom 2 are 8 Gallon Kettles. The top is from my extract days (44 qt). All of it is for 5 gallon batches.


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 Post subject: Re: Blichmann Top Tier: Reviews, Pics, Tips, etc.
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:59 pm 
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I just bought one last Wednesday and it was delivered Friday. This isn't a full review since I'm waiting on a few parts that were mistakenly left out of the delivery.

Overall, I like this this thing very much -- and I was putting it together, I was liking it more and more. First impression: it's big and frigging solid. The pictures don't really do it justice. I mean, it's gotta be solid if it's going to support 30-gallon kettles, but I was surprised at the weight of the thing overall. Very nice.

I've got an all-electric HERMS brewery with 3 15-gallon kettles (1 polarware, 2 Blichmann). I've been brewing for the past several weeks on some cinderblocks and an iron table -- so I was looking for some sort of structure that's not so make-shift. I work 12-14 hour days -- 5 days a week -- so with the job and the commute, all I wanted to do was brew -- not talk to welders or learn welding. I'd like to learn welding, sure -- especially after researching the possibilities for a brew stand, but I didn't see having much time for it.

Anyway, I pulled the trigger on the TopTier last week and ordered it from Rebel Brewing with free shipping. I ordered it late on Wednesday, and by Friday it was at my doorstep. Very cool.

I ordered the basic stand, three shelving units, a march pump bracket, a therminator bracket, and a pair of utility shelves. Total cost: around $800. Expensive? Yes. Cool as building your own? No. But it's solid as hell, looks nice, and was at my doorstep in less than 48 hours. Can't beat that. (Didn't order any burners -- but I see that the propane valve is include with the main unit, as well as some basic hardware to attach the manifold. As everybody knows, you need to get your own piping if you choose to go with burners -- but this is a plus and makes it much more flexible.)

The parts mistakenly left out were the brackets for the main shelves. No big deal. I emailed Blichmann, and they'll be FedEx'd on Monday. I'm disappointed I couldn't put everything together today -- but that's fine. I'll finish it up next Saturday, re-cut my hoses and attach fittings, and be brewing (I'm guessing) by noon or so on Saturday.

Out of the Box

I spent about an hour and half this morning assembling the four legs. I suspect one could do it in about an hour, but I had to run to Ace for the proper wrench. Tools required are minimal -- a good wrench set is pretty much all you need. You might want some saw horses or some kind of support for propping the main tier horizontally while you attach the legs. All the hardware comes in one of the two (or in my case, three) boxes. Instructions are exactly like all the other Blichmann instructions -- brief, direct, but effective.

Anyway, I attached the hardware to the legs, rested the main tier horizontally on two sets of cinder blocks, and was able to attach the legs with ease. It's key that the steel tier itself rest on your brewing surface so that the tier holds most of the weight and the legs are there for support and stability. I thought I'd need a helper to get everything leveled, but it was very easy to do.

That's when I realized the brackets were missing, so I had to wait on the rest of the assembly -- but it looks like it will be very easy -- an hour or two tops. Then I'll configure everything.

In my current setup, I pump and recirculate from HLT to MLT, gravity feed from MLT to BK, and then pump BK through Therminator into fermenter. So my plan is to keep this essential workflow by mounting the HLT and BK parallel to each other at the bottom of the TopTier and then mount the MLT high. Not at the tippy top -- but attach to front face of the four-face tier, and then half the MLT attach low on the left side and the BK low to the right side.

The main idea with the TopTier is to keep the center of gravity as low as possible -- so this configuration should work for me. Obviously, the Top Tier is great for an all-gravity brewer, too -- no pumps needed. I've got a step stool which I know now will get some use to monitor the mash, but it won't be as high as I feared. I'm 6', the main tier is 6' -- and even with the four legs (with adjustable levelers and wheels) -- the whole thing stands 6' exactly since the end of the tier needs to rest flat on the surface. So -- for me -- it's going to work out great.

Stuff I don't like:

- Not much, really. Just that while it can be moved, but it's very, very heavy. It makes an awful, awful racket when tipped back and moving on its plastic wheels. (And I'm not using burners. I imagine the burners would add significant weight to the thing.) So while it's mobile, it's not necessarily portable. Not a bad thing -- but I can't really move thing out of my garage to at 5:30am in the morning to start a brewday due to the noise. (My driveway is old asphalt -- so maybe on smooth concrete it's a bit quieter.)

Stuff I like:

- Built rock solid. Even though I'm not 100% finished, I've leveled the thing and can see that it's not going to move at all with the kettles and hardware hanging off the tiers.

- It's pretty quick to put together. Need a good wrench set, a couple of supports, a level, a ruler (to measure the placement of the legs once they're attached -- 1.5" up from the end of the tier in order to make sure the end of the tier stays on the ground), and you're good to go.

So that's it. I like it -- and as soon as I get the missing pieces, I'll finish it out. It's a good purchase. Is it as cool as building your own? No -- but as I say, I'd rather spend my very limited time-off making beer! :)

It's going to work great for me!


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