Aging in oak barrels

Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:57 pm

I'm looking for some info on aging a big stout in a oak barrel.
Are there any special sanitation steps that to be taken?
How long would be an appropriate aging time be without getting into multi-years?

I'll start there for now.

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Re: Aging in oak barrels

Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:46 am

The classic answer, it depends. The clarification is that a lot of this depends on what was in the barrel previously, and how much it has been used. Our club put imperial stout in a whiskey barrel fresh from the distillery. It was tested periodically and about 6 months was good. I don't think the person that picked up the barrel did anything special to sterilize the barrel.

For time, a brand new barrel will impart a lot of oak. How much depends on the toast level of the barrel. A month might be long enough depending on the strength and character of the stout. A light ale might be plenty oaky in even less time. If the barrel has been previously used, you'll probably need more time. Wineries typically only use barrels about seven times because after that the oak has faded so much that they don't get oak out of it. You can still use one of these and get oak, but plan on a much longer aging time.

You can never truly sanitize a barrel, and once a barrel is infected, it will stay that way. What you can do is try to control the level of bugs in the barrel. Steam will kill a lot of bugs. Sulfite solutions are commonly used. If I had a new barrel, I would just fill it after filling and rinsing with water to make sure it won't leak. I might consider a sanitizing solution if I was doubtful of the barrels origins and conditions prior to getting it. If the barrel has been soured, I would use a sulfite solution to limit the unpredictable and unknown organisms before filling with a stout, although I would question even putting a stout in a soured barrel.
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Re: Aging in oak barrels

Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:13 am

The barrel I can direct from a distillery that was aging bourbon for 12 years in it

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Re: Aging in oak barrels

Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:52 am

We did this about three months ago at our local brewery. Do you have a 55 gallon barrel?
We received the barrel from a bourbon maker in Kentucky that was bunged for transport. It smelled fantastic, if you like the smell of bourbon. We rinsed the barrel with RO water to get the loose charred wood out then filled the barrel with water to swell the joints. After two-three days the barrel was tight and we drained the water out. We dropped a liter of bourbon in the barrel and rotated the barrel to coat all of the surfaces. Racked beer into the barrel and viola! Age to your satisfaction but keep in mind that you are going to want to keep the barrel "topped" off with beer to keep the acetobacter away.

Just my .02 and who knows.... you might just see this beer at the GABF this year!


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Re: Aging in oak barrels

Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:13 pm

Thanks weenie boy!!!
Exactly the type of info I was looking for.
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