Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:50 pm

I usually put my ales in a bucket with a pieces of sanatized aluminum foil and let them open ferment. It reduces the chance of spewing and its great for the development of belgian yeast esters and phenols.
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Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:20 am

Yeah, we (my wife and I) were sort of trying something new regarding the fermentation, and it turned out to be a Bad Idea(tm).

Our first solution to the thermowell issue was to ferment with the thermowell in place and the second hole left empty, with a piece of sanitized aluminum foil covering the whole top of the carboy. This turns out to be a pretty good mixture of the worst features of all the other options.

As it turns out, a carboy isn't the place to experiment with open fermentation. The neck is too restrictive, and with a double-drilled bung in place, you just get a volcano instead of a blown bung. And without a blow-off hose, you end up with a microbiology experiment on the floor and all down the sides of your fermenter. Duh... *kicks past self in the butt to make the lesson sink in*

So yeah, screw thermowells.

On a slightly related note, we learned something else on this ferment. The heater wrap that Northern Brewer sells is basically a roll of plastic printed with resistive elements, and then cut to length. As it turns out, the crimps that connect the lamp cord to the power rails are completely unprotected, exposed, deadly, O-my-holy-god, line current. Combine this screw up with my idiotic inattention, and combine all that with metalized bubble-wrap intended to insulate our carboy.... Lets just say that when the thermal controller kicked the heater on, the colors were pretty.

So if you've got one of these widowmakers, check and make sure there's some sort of insulation on the crimps, and if there isn't bust out the electrical tape.
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Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:44 am

Wow, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.... :shock:

I would give the guys at Northern Brewer a call and let them know your concern. They are a great bunch of people over there and I'm sure they will be very receptive. I'm pretty sure they will "re-evaluate" their relationship with that manufacturer if the manufacturer doesn't take their "suggestion" to improve the safety of their product.

Under-protected line voltage in the brewery is unacceptable. In the meantime, maybe you should move your fermenter near a GFCI outlet.



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Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:03 pm

Good point, I'll drop them a line and let them know about it. I've heard good things from multiple sources about the NB staff, I'm sure they'll look into it.

Funny you should mention GFCI. When we built our fermentation box I couldn't remember if the outlet in the garage was GFCI or not, so I installed a GFCI outlet in the box.

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Turns out the one on the wall was GFCI as well. Not sure what happens when you daisy-chain two of them together, but I can only assume at least one of them will trip when Bad Things(tm) happen.

If anyone's interested, the rest of the photos of that box are at:
http://picasaweb.google.com/triplepoint/FermentationBox
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Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:55 pm

It's just redundant. I'm not sure if the "child" GFCI will trip the "parent" (hit the test button on the child and let us know) - but it doesn't matter - just a waste of a more expensive outlet. GFCIs will protect everything on the "load" side - which includes what is plugged into them.


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