Boycott Magic Hat Brewing Company...

[one_dead_soul]

i usually don't give a rats ass about this stuff. if you like the beer then drink it. if you don't.. then don't. if your mad at magic hat then go TP there brewery, take the tour and give them a upper decker.

On another side note, I think that many of us in the North East have a soft spot for Magic Hat. .

not me. i think they make the worst beer i have ever had and are full of themselves. if i shit into a glass i wouldn't be proud of it. one time i tride an imperial stout they had and it tasted exactly like carbonated soy sauce with malt cyrup in it( that isn't a joke eather). i have boycotted magic hat for years but not because there douch bags. because they just suck.. this is just something else i can add to my "reasons i hate magic hat" list

tom

[mediumsk]

If things are so messed up and you've got it all figured out, maybe you should run for office and straighten us all out? Of course that would mean you'd have to become the very thing you seem to despise so much

My general position is that the public sector often messes up more things than they fix when expanded beyond their basic charter. They are necessary for many things (defense, infrastructure, establishing and enforcing laws) and ineffective as well as most that work in the public sector are rarely held accountable for their own actions and often have a job for life regardless of their performance, or lack thereof. I am for smaller government and comparable pay and benefits for similar work in the private sector, not no government at all.

As an example: when I gave a one week training seminar to entire local county staff engineering office many years ago on how to create and use a database (this was 1995), a majority of them wanted to create a program to track and monitor their accrued vacation and sick pay - the assumption was that some of the public employees in the payroll department might be as incompetent as some of their own co-workers and they wanted to double check their accuracy so they did not lose any potential benefits. As many here in the public sector obtain their jobs through nepotism or as political rewards, there is a lower standard of performance expected for most public worker in my experience compared to their peers in the private sector. Here, the public sector employee often also receives much better compensation for a similar job, especially the employees that have been on the payroll for more than 10 years.

I suggested creating a new program to monitor the public works projects under development, who was assigned to each, what was in progress and as they were completed the history would ber saved - that might be a better use of a simple database to implement during that week, but that was shot down by the department head and we did a redundant personal payroll project instead.

As to your suggestion that I run for office it just won't work here - unless you are a member of the inside establishment and are supported and endorsed by the public worker's labor unions, you will not win elective office in my state or county. I would love to be Mayor of our County for a single term and reform some things (several folks have asked me to run this year) - but I realize that much can not be reformed due to existing public worker union contracts and I would not be as effective as I could be.

It is the same in California as well and because of that you state is in trouble as well:

http://www.city-journal.org/2009/eon1123sg.html

i love you man!
it's like the "dad" lecture if only he were actually into beer

[JP]

I thought Monster had every right to do what they did, and this shitty beer has every right to do what they are doing. People, this is why we live in a free country - because if we feel slighted, we can take action. Regardless if others think it is correct and a "cool" thing to do. It makes the US the best place to live in no matter all the other BS that we have to deal with (that other countries have to deal with as well). I don't give a fuck about either naming scheme, but I will support any companies action to secure their name/logo/image/brand if they feel threatened.

If you don't like it then don't buy it. But begging people to boycott a company for doing something that they have every legal right to do in a free country is just fucking retarded.

And I buy BP gas.

PIECE!

[Junket]

How is urging a boycott "fucking retarded"? I'd be OK with "most likely futile" or "misguided", but if the individual is dissatisfied with a company's actions, then I think that urging a boycott is one valid right of the individual, and certainly not retarded.

I thought I saw JP in an NHC skit about not being a dick. Though he was the guy GIVING the spit-take. (CLASSIC moment)

[JP]

1 - I dont think I am being a dick.

2 - urging a boycott is fine, but not for something that is within that companys right to do, in this case, protecting their brand.

[TapItGood]

People, this is why we live in a free country - because if we feel slighted, we can take action. Regardless if others think it is correct and a "cool" thing to do.

JP you just totally contradicted yourself. How can boycotting or urging other people to boycott be retarded?

Isn't boycotting a company a perfect example of taking action from feeling slighted, regardless if others thinks it's correct?

[TheDarkSide]

2 - urging a boycott is fine, but not for something that is within that companys right to do, in this case, protecting their brand.

Then why do you boycott the Toronado for being within their rights to be complete dicks

[explosivebeer]

1 - I dont think I am being a dick.

2 - urging a boycott is fine, but not for something that is within that companys right to do, in this case, protecting their brand.

Protecting your brand is one thing but Magic Hat is really just infringing on Georgetown's brand. More than that though, in any other type of business, this would be more understandable. It's just surprising and unfortunate to see it happen in the craft beer world where things can usually be resolved more amicably. But forcing Georgetown to give up the rights to their "9 lb" name which has roots in the Georgetown community, is located across the country, and is only tangentially related to "#9" is not very friendly.

Facing legal action, obviously Georgetown did not think it was worth it to go to court, which is understandable. But that's not to say it's not worth fighting, or that Magic Hat shouldn't catch a fair amount of shit for forcing Georgetown into a corner instead of finding a mutual understanding.