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Okay, I am brewing a More Beer Russian River Blind Pig extract clone this weekend and I have a few questions. I will be using a propane burner and a large enough pot to complete a full wort boil for the first time. I also planned on adding 20% of the extract in the beginning and the rest with 20 minutes to go. How much should I cut back on hops? And will will the reduction amount be consistent across all of the additions. For example should I cut back 20% for all additions or should I be going for something like a 20% reduction on the 60 minute bittering addition and then only something like 10% and 5% for the flavor and aroma additions respectively?

Thanks,
Kevin

I'd say put it all in. Don't cut back at all. You might want to check with B3, but I think most of the kits are designed with a full boil in mind. So you should be alright to go with the recipe as is.

Fell free to call JP tho... 1-800-BUS-STOP


Travis

I agree with Travis. The late extract technique is really designed to help a partial wort boil by improving hop utilization and reducing wort caramelization to levels equivilent to a full wort boil. Since you are already doing a full wort boil, you don't really need to withhold the extract until late.

On the other hand, since this is homebrewing, you might come up with the next great thang. As far as utilization, you can look at the tables for utilization vs. boil gravity vs. time in How To Brew.

In all the Clone Brews recipes, they state to only cut back on the bittering hops for the all grain recipes (which the only significance to the hops is that it's a full wort boil). I believe I read somewhere else too that the boil size is only important to the isomerization of the hop oils - which means it's only pertienent to the bittering hops. The other hops are mainly aroma and flavor. Of course there is SOME isomerization of the oils for the aroma and flavor, but probably not enough to make a noticeable difference.

I went all in on the extract and the hops. The finished color after the boil was great and when I tasted the hydro sample it was really good. I think this one is going to be a winner. I made a starter for the first time as well, so I am hoping that adds to the overall quality of this beer too. Thanks for the advice.

Kevin

might not matter since you already brewed, but i got a turkey fryer set up a few months ago and do a late extract full wort boil and i don't cut back on the hops.

I guess I do it because i'm worried about color and too much carmalization. Not sure if i should be, but during my last batch i dumped it all in up front and it came out in the standard brown color...should have been a bit more red.