Re: I love the smell of DME in the morning.

Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:03 am

i just did a similar brew.
the requisite once a year extract batch.
1.050 beer
french saison yeast, 15 minute boil, all Columbus at 10 minutes
the samples from the fermenter are great.

for certain beers, extract's not all that bad
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Re: I love the smell of DME in the morning.

Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:36 am

mediumsk wrote:i just did a similar brew.
the requisite once a year extract batch.
1.050 beer
french saison yeast, 15 minute boil, all Columbus at 10 minutes
the samples from the fermenter are great.

for certain beers, extract's not all that bad

I agree. Sometimes a short brew day is a good thing!
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Re: I love the smell of DME in the morning.

Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:24 am

Saison yeast and all columbus? Wow. Interested in how that turns out.

An update on mine...the kraeusen was green. Not pea soup green, but it definitely had a green tint to it. I'm pretty much done with the ferement and will keg it up; this weekend. I should have some prelim tasting notes by next weekend.
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Re: I love the smell of DME in the morning.

Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:01 am

#3 Briess Weizen DME
#3 Briess Pilsner DME
#2 Corn Sugar
.75 Victory
.75 Munich
.75 C120
.5 C80
.5 Wheat
.25 Briess 6 Row

Cascade, Simcoe, Columbus, Amarillo - 2oz each @ 10 min.
Centennial - 1oz @ 0 min.

US-05 @ 67¤ F - 12 days - Keg 2.5 vols

OG: 1.070
FG: 1.011
IBU: 57

I had a bunch of hops to get rid of as well as a bunch of specialty grain, so I whipped up this 10 minute boil hoppy amber. I added the 6 Row for some added diastatic power to my mini-mash. Big crisp hop flavor, soft yet balancing bittering, and a good hop nose. My LHBS was suprised to find out that it was bitter because I hadn't boiled for 60 min & that it wasn't cidery from the sugar. Experiments are good!
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Re: I love the smell of DME in the morning.

Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:18 am

andy77 wrote: I should have some prelim tasting notes by next weekend.


Wondering how this one turned out.
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Re: I love the smell of DME in the morning.

Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:57 am

Thanks for the reminder.

It finished higher than I'm used to, at 1.016. I like my IPAs to get down to 1.012. Also, it hasn't cleared yet, so I'm expecting a cleaner beer once all that protein and yeast clears.

I was pleased to find it wasn't sweet at all. With the only character grain being C10, the malt profile lends enough mouthfeel, and body but doesn't distract from the hops.

The hop aroma is fantastic. Citrus, pine, resin...all the things you'd expect from these hops. If you just handed me this beer, I'd guess it was dry hopped.

Hop flavor is also outstanding. It's a nice, bright, clean, resinous hop flavor that I always enjoy in fresh commercial examples. Bitterness is firm, appropriate for an IPA, but not harsh. Just a wonderful hop experience.

The beer finishes more crisp than it's FG would suggest. All hops up front, and a crisp, dry finish that leaves you wanting more. I attribute this to the hop bitterness and the restrained malt bill.

I'm definitely brewing this again. I may play with the hops a bit, but for now I'm pleased with the malt. I guess the only issue with this recipe is the price. $34 for hops, $29 for the extract, $7 for yeast...that's a $70 batch. For me, though, worth the convenience when I don't have the time for an all day brew session.
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Re: I love the smell of DME in the morning.

Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:25 am

andy77 wrote:Thanks for the reminder.

It finished higher than I'm used to, at 1.016. I like my IPAs to get down to 1.012. Also, it hasn't cleared yet, so I'm expecting a cleaner beer once all that protein and yeast clears.

I was pleased to find it wasn't sweet at all. With the only character grain being C10, the malt profile lends enough mouthfeel, and body but doesn't distract from the hops.

The hop aroma is fantastic. Citrus, pine, resin...all the things you'd expect from these hops. If you just handed me this beer, I'd guess it was dry hopped.

Hop flavor is also outstanding. It's a nice, bright, clean, resinous hop flavor that I always enjoy in fresh commercial examples. Bitterness is firm, appropriate for an IPA, but not harsh. Just a wonderful hop experience.

The beer finishes more crisp than it's FG would suggest. All hops up front, and a crisp, dry finish that leaves you wanting more. I attribute this to the hop bitterness and the restrained malt bill.

I'm definitely brewing this again. I may play with the hops a bit, but for now I'm pleased with the malt. I guess the only issue with this recipe is the price. $34 for hops, $29 for the extract, $7 for yeast...that's a $70 batch. For me, though, worth the convenience when I don't have the time for an all day brew session.

I spend about that much for the all-grain Tasty APA clone. Since I can't get anything like that locally, it's worth the $$.
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Re: I love the smell of DME in the morning.

Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:49 am

I brewed another batch three weeks ago. It's cold conditioning right now. Remember that the first batch finished with a higher OG that I like for an IPA. I prefer 1.010 or so and this finished out at 1.017. As a drank the first batch more, I discovered the bitterness to be a bit lacking, my first impressions notwithstanding. It was a small enough difeciency that I thought reducing the sweetness and increase the perceived bitterness. Remembering that extract contains two row and carapils, and many good IPA recipes contain just 2 row and carapils or C10, I just added the LME and .5 lb of cane sugar to lighten the body. Hop bill was the same.

Early tastes display the same hop aroma and flavor. The malt character is definitely more restrained. It finished, IIRC, at 1.011, perfect for my tastes. It was hard for me to gauge bitterness without full carbonation, but it seems more bitter...hard to say.

I'm hopeful. Also, this is an extract only recipe, so the "express" nature of it is enhanced with this new recipe.
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