Yikes guys -- disappointing show. Mostly based on lots of old, outdated information (like John's lautering experiments from years ago, plus a lot of opinions) that are starting to be challenged by the new generation of brewing geeks. Worse thing is when Jamil ridicules some of the up-and-coming brewers who are doing lots of home experimentation to test the common myths. It gets really embarrassing when the hosts make blind accusations of people not knowing their stuff because they don't take the time to research it themself when the opposite is true. Kind of ironic that the hosts make assumptions without doing their RESEARCH and stick their foots in their mouths! C'mon guys -- tone down the egos, learn what's new in the home brewing world, and get back to being real beer geeks. Thumbs down this round. Boo.

Excellent tips for improving mash efficiency. Learned a lot. Have been struggling lately with 60%, and using the tips discussed in the show, I hope to improve things a little. Keep up the great detailed discussions.

I agree with Armybruer that the egos are a bit large. Jamils is riding right a cocky and arrogant at times. It is hard to argue with all his awards but, there are winning brewers that brew in many difffernt ways. Some of the brewers have done research by brewing for years,using different equipment, crush, water chem, etc, and keeping great notes. To me that is some of the greatest research.