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Jamil show - Oz sparkling Ale

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Jamil show - Oz sparkling Ale

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:18 pm
by dunleav1
I've been listening to the podcast on the drive to work.
Peter did a wonderful job describing the style.

I thought I'd capture the recipe for anyone who is interested.

97% pilsner
3% light crystal 60 to 90
45 ibu pride of ringwood - 60 minutes
maybe calcium sulfate if your water is hard.
maybe a whirlfloc tablet
mash - 62C - 144F - 90 minutes
90 minute boil
1.5 to 2 Liter yeast starter of cultured Coopers starter - not dry yeast packet -
maybe wlp009 but not coopers.
Ferment:
fruity (maybe some bananna) 21-23C - 69-74F
less fruity 18-20C - 65-68F
maybe add a little sugar to ferment it out better.


I'll add it to Brewsmith and post it tommorrow.

Thanks,
JD

Re: Jamil show - Oz sparkling Ale

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:18 am
by dsapsis
Not to pick on Peter, but Sparkling has closer to 20-25 IBU, not 40-45 as stated. I pressed the brewers during my prolonged tour of the brewery (met Glenn Cooper) on it, and they wouldn't cop to any analysis, but often, when the beer ages it gets phenolic, which takes on both coarseness and dryness.

Jamil is correct it doesn't travel well -- AT ALL. When I visited in 1996, the local brewing nut Andy Walsh of Sydney told me straight up the beer really has to be tasted in South Oz to be appreciated and he was totally correct. Even in the relatively closer Melbourne, it bore little resemblance to having it fresh in Adelaide. When fresh, the fruitiness is unmistakably sweet apple (ethyl hexanoate). Interestingly, in 96, only the sparkling and stout were bottle conditioned. By comparison, the green label (pale ale) was not bottle conditioned and nothing to write home about. Peter references the green label as being yeasted, which definitely wasn't the case during my visit.

Like Steam, this beer is is best enjoyed very close to home.

Re: Jamil show - Oz sparkling Ale

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:06 am
by dsapsis
Just found my notes from visiting the brewery. Note, this dates to Nov. 1996.
88% pale malt from Cavan maltings, 2.1 Lov 11.5 % Protein, ~ 40 Kolbach
Single Infusion Mash at 144F
12% brewing sugars
OG (from the brewer) 1054
FG (measured) 1.008

I thought the program confounded Austrailan Pale Ale with Sparkling, when the two are really quite different. Sparkling is yellow-gold, and massively fruity and gassy. No doubt the beer has some origins in the UK tradition, but its well in its own flavor space.

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