Jamil's Irish ale
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:36 pm
by Imakewort
I made Jamil's Red Irish ale exactly as per recipe, and it came out to dark and too roasty. should I cut the roasted barley in half next time?
Re: Jamil's Irish ale
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:43 pm
by Brandon
extract or All Grain?
Re: Jamil's Irish ale
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:34 pm
by Imakewort
all grain, bought the roasted barley from B3
Re: Jamil's Irish ale
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:33 pm
by Thirsty Mallard
Was the Roasted Barley the same L value in the recipe as what you got from B3? Roasted Barley is a tricky one. They range from 300L to 500L upwards of 650L.
Re: Jamil's Irish ale
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:20 am
by Tsoultrane
A couple of things to think about:
1.Jamil's recipe calls for 350L Roasted Barley, which is lower than what I usually see stocked. I know that my LHBS only carries 450L Roasted Barley.
2. Jamil's recipe is for a 6 gallon batch, with 5 gallon in the keg (leaving .5 gallon in kettle and .5 in fermenter). I dont know about in his book, but on the show he doesnt always say that, though all his recipes are formulated that way. So if you only made a 5 gallon batch you are basically too concentrated (and you OG should have been higher than expected too).
3. Jamil said that his recipe is a little bolder than say Smithwicks, and if you wanted something closer to Smithwicks you should use 5 oz., of the C40,C120 and RB instead of 6 oz. of each.
I have this same recipe in the fermenter right now, and I used the 450L RB because that was all I could get, knowing it might be a little dark. It was actually my first AG batch, and somehow my OG came out almost perfect to what I expected, aiming for a 70% efficiency (which is what Jamil calculates all of his recipes for, as he has said anything too much higher and he finds it can affect the flavors in subtle ways). It has only been fermenting for a week, so I am not sure how it looks.
Re: Jamil's Irish ale
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:49 am
by Imakewort
I am not sure where I bought my Roasted Barley i usually buy in bulk. so I think it is either from NB or B3 so should be at 500L. Next batch should I put in 3 oz? And I hit all my numbers dead on at 70% efficiency.
Re: Jamil's Irish ale
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:03 am
by Tsoultrane
I would say cutting it to 3 oz. would be a good place to start, especially if you have 500L RB.
Re: Jamil's Irish ale
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:29 pm
by BYOHB
I am getting ready to do this one!
I was planning on cutting the roast in half since mine is 500L roast.
I know some LHBS sell a 300L light roast!
But, I have a few other recipes needing 500L Roast, so I will just cut in half!
Jamil talks about this on the podcast, not quit the same flavor... But close.