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Whirlpool Return for Kettle

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Whirlpool Return for Kettle

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:54 am
by BrotherhoodBrew
I figured I would share my recent brew kettle upgrade that has worked out great so far. I've been doing the Jamil Whirlpool chilling method for awhile and found that with a 1/2 in copper pipe I was not getting the wort flow I wanted. It worked ok, but I found that if I stirred the wort with a spoon I could shave off plenty of time in the chilling process compared to using a pump. After a few times of using the spoon and IC method I decided that the hassle of using the pump to move the wort was not worth it. I still use a sump pump and ice water when the wort gets to 100F or so but I was doing the whirlpool manually and would use less ice and water overall. The main problem was that my kettle was open the whole time I was chilling and I had to stand over it and stir, so it was not the most sanitary way of doing things. I would guess that pitching a nice healthy starter didn't give any bugs time to get a foothold before the yeast kicked in.

I of course wanted something better but placed the project on the back burner. I recent post on another website inspired me to get it done. That's where I came up with this

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I found a nice stainless union from here. They are getting out of the pipe fittings business and so I was able to get the threaded union for $3. The downfall is you have to order 20 bucks worth of stuff to place an order with them. I had no problems with my order but have heard some stories about St. Pats in the past, so be warned.

The last part of the whirlpool return use a 3/8 NPT nipple and a old keg diptube to become the output. I had a buddy of mine cut the nipple in half ( because the whole thing was not needed ) and then we put the diptube trough the nipple ;) and welded it to the end of the nipple. We had to clear the threads and we pressure tested the weld with a sink connection and it worked great.

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I ran a test with water and it makes a great whirlpool. I used it the next time I brewed and get the same if not faster results with cooling time as I did when I was using a spoon and moving the wort around. The upside is I can wait till 120F and put on the lid and be chilling my wort with the pot covered. It is works great! The wort really moves around the chiller and I had a small cone of hops in the middle. I've noticed that I can never get a full cone in my kettle and I assume it is due to all the cold break that ends up at the bottom when using a IC. I just brew 6 Gallons and leave 1 gallon behind when racking and I normally have clear wort going into the fermenter.

There are more pictures on my website at http://brotherhoodbrew.com/v/whirlpool+return/ and I will try to get some video the next time I brew.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:01 pm
by BDawg
NICE!

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:00 pm
by Bugeater
Thanks! I think I will put that type of whirlpool design on the brew kettle I am putting together.

Wayne
Bugeater Brewing Company

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:37 pm
by soilboy
Nice one Brotherhood.

I have this setup minus the smaller diameter return. I never thought of that!
I have a length of 10mm copper pipe lying around so I'll give it a shot.

I do have a problem with my setup though. I have been trying to recirculate my hot wort through my kettle filter but it seems to block when I use pellets and my whirlpool soon stops.

Should I look at improving my kettle hop/trub filter (i.e. covering my manifold filter with a hop bag) or just pump hops and trubs through the pump and let them settle in a nice cone before transfering to fermentor.

I listened to an archive show from 2005 and Doc mentioned that he uses whirlpool chilling with a pump. Does Doc use a filter? Doc?

Any ideas anyone?

Oops I forgot to mention that I recirculate through my counterflow chiller rather than use a IC in the kettle.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:08 pm
by Beermaker
I do kinda the same thing on my BK. I can run my boiling wort through my plate chiller to sanitize it, then through my pump, and into the middle of the BK. I use a 1/2" valva into the kettle, and I have a 1/2" 90 on the inside to circulate. Works pretty goog to swirl the hops and trub to the center after boiling is complete.

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